{"id":13967,"date":"2024-02-13T12:28:01","date_gmt":"2024-02-13T11:28:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/wenvoe.org.uk\/?p=13967"},"modified":"2024-08-02T11:04:16","modified_gmt":"2024-08-02T10:04:16","slug":"13967","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/wenvoe.org.uk\/?p=13967","title":{"rendered":"Searching for GOLD"},"content":{"rendered":"<hr noshade=\"noshade\" size=\"5\" \/>\n<hr \/>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 24pt; color: #008000;\">WENVOE FORUM<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"10987\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/wenvoe.org.uk\/?attachment_id=10987\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/wenvoe.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/forum01.jpg?fit=300%2C124\" data-orig-size=\"300,124\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"forum01\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/wenvoe.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/forum01.jpg?fit=300%2C124\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/wenvoe.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/forum01.jpg?fit=300%2C124\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-10987\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/wenvoe.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/forum01.jpg?resize=300%2C124\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"124\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 18pt;\"><b style=\"color: #008000; font-family: 'book antiqua', palatino, serif;\"><strong>Considering tomorrow today<\/strong><\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia, palatino, serif; font-size: 18pt; color: #339966;\"><strong>Searching for GOLD<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong><em>Do you know the colour of hydrogen? <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Wenvoe What\u2019s On readers may remember from school science lessons that hydrogen, in<a href=\"http:\/\/wenvoe.org.uk\/?attachment_id=13907\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-13907\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"13907\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/wenvoe.org.uk\/?attachment_id=13907\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/wenvoe.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Picture5-1.png?fit=500%2C401\" data-orig-size=\"500,401\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Picture5\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/wenvoe.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Picture5-1.png?fit=300%2C241\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/wenvoe.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Picture5-1.png?fit=500%2C401\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-13907\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/wenvoe.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Picture5-1.png?resize=300%2C241\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"241\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/wenvoe.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Picture5-1.png?resize=300%2C241 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/wenvoe.org.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Picture5-1.png?w=500 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/a> its normal state, is a colourless, tasteless, odourless and non-toxic gas. It is the third most abundant element on the surface of Earth, found in water and all organic matter. It is the simplest element and the lightest being 9 times lighter than air, which drove its use in the first part of the 20th century as the \u201clift\u201d for airships until the Hindenburg disaster which reminds us that it in extremely flammable, in fact it is literally rocket fuel having been used particularly in combination with oxygen since NASA\u2019s Apollo programme.<\/p>\n<p>So hydrogen is light, abundant, non-toxic and flammable. These are all important properties that suggest Hydrogen might be part of the answer to replacing our dependence on fossil fuels in order to keep global temperatures down and avoid destructive and threatening climate driven events such as flooding and wild fires. However it seems that in this regard all Hydrogen is definitely not created equal.<\/p>\n<p>Hydrogen is highly reactive, so it generally doesn\u2019t hang around on its own but joins up with something else. It is created in the process of many chemical reactions but being so light it can quickly disperse into its surroundings. So to use it as a viable fuel it is generally created and captured and this is where the colourless gas of our science lessons becomes associated with a colour.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Black or Brown <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This comes from the most environmentally damaging form of hydrogen creation. Black or brown coal is used to make liquid hydrogen but all the damaging products of coal combustion are released where the hydrogen is produced, and the low carbon emission hydrogen can be moved easily to other places that want low carbon fuel. It reminds me of times gone by when in order to supply London with smokeless coal to avoid \u201cthe smogs\u201d much of the pollution it seemed was left behind in Mountain Ash and other places where the smokeless brickettes were made.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Grey <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Grey hydrogen is made from natural gas or methane and though there are fewer pollutants than from coal, the process results in much the same sort of greenhouse gases being released as would have been the case just using the natural gas. Currently most of the supply of hydrogen is grey.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Blue <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Blue hydrogen again is made from natural gas but using a process that captures the carbon and allows it to be stored. Turquoise In the blue part of the spectrum an experimental production method called Methane Pyrolysis produces Hydrogen and solid carbon. This may prove useful in the future as a low carbon fuel, if permanent storage or environmentally friendly use is made of the solid carbon Pink (or purple or red) We go back to the science lab at school again now. For many, H2O is the one chemical formula that they know, WATER. By passing a current of electricity through water it splits the water into two gases hydrogen and oxygen, which can be collected separately with no carbon resulting.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Pink, purple or red<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>hydrogen refers to hydrogen made by electrolysis using nuclear power. Green Using electrolysis of water with \u201cgreen\u201d renewable electricity sources, wind, solar, water turbine etc gives us the best hope for making hydrogen without adding to the greenhouse effect. NB Yellow Hydrogen is sometimes used for that produced using solar power.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>GOLD<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Geologists have long known that reactions between rocks containing iron and water produces hydrogen effectively the same process as rusting. However the assumption had been that the light hydrogen with its small molecule would seep out of the rocks and disperse, and no-one looked for any captured in the same way as natural gas was captured. Necessity, mother of invention has inspired new searches and big reservoirs are being found. Environmentalists fear that this search would uncover new oil and gas resources and that it will be hard to resist the pressure to exploit them and environmentalists will need to be proactive in combating that risk. To find large quantities of hydrogen that could be used in the same way as natural gas has could be a partial answer to many prayers.<\/p>\n<p>Keep an eye out for news of a new gold mine.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr noshade=\"noshade\" size=\"5\" \/>\n<p>New Forum members are always welcome to join e-mail us e-mail gwenfo.<br \/>\nforum@gmail.com<br \/>\nContact to us on :-Facebook: Gwen Fo @ https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/gwen.fo.1\/<br \/>\nand Wenvoe Forum @ https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/635369267864402 or<br \/>\ntwitter @ForumGwenfo<br \/>\nSee our Blog site https:\/\/wenvoeforum.wordpress.com\/<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<hr noshade=\"noshade\" size=\"5\" \/>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>WENVOE FORUM Considering tomorrow today Searching for GOLD Do you know the colour of hydrogen? Wenvoe What\u2019s On readers may remember from school science lessons that hydrogen, in its normal state, is a colourless, tasteless, odourless and non-toxic gas. It is the third most abundant element on the surface of Earth, found in water and all organic matter. 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